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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:03 am 
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Yay! We where do lucky paulfrank didn't reveal what he had stolen, we where in crazy damage control :D

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@Matt-ShadowLord any insights from the moderator perspective? I'm curious how this one looked from your end


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The gimli thing was jsut luck and quick thinking by SL. We weren't told what our characters were carrying so the RC's were not based on that.

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It's more that we were chatting in PM and I reached the conclusion that Aenur was either Godfather or Vigilante, thinking he had a killing aspect to him because he was skilled with a knife, and MSL told me that he couldn't comment on my train of thought but that every character was armed and that my results are a lot more ambiguous than that, which got me thinking he must be a tracker or something. Thus why I posted that I'd made a huge mistake and hadn't understood something, but it turns out I was actually right about him being Godfather :(

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Aw paulfrank ;) we honestly said our only hope is whoever it is doesn't throw "lotr man of skill" into google or we are boned!

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Though on further thought, is it odd for Gamling the Old of Westfold to have a knife and not a sword?
And Nic, I did reveal it, right before I was lynched ^^

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Wait, you guys knew I stole the knife?

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Noticed when the knife was gone... the role copped you and found a thief.

2+2 = sneaky hobbit and lynch you.

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@Matt-ShadowLord any insights from the moderator perspective? I'm curious how this one looked from your end
It was a very interesting game from my perspective. My last game (Rogue States) started with 1 power (Watcher) amongst about 20 players, so I wanted to do something very different and make the Lord of the Rings game have an appropriately 'Heroic' feel to it. The challenge was to make a game that was effectively Role Madness still work out in a balanced way, which is why there were certain combinations of powers, and also why it wasn't announced beforehand that there were no vanilla players - if people had known, it would have changed the first two days dramatically.

I think it worked out well, since it really came down to a 50/50 decision between two possible lynch candidates on the last day, leaving just two players standing at the end of the game. That's as close as it gets! There were some interesting plays along the way by players on both teams, and I'm actually surprised Mafia got the win in the end. They decided to hit Aza even though he claimed to be protected, they did a "hail mary" hit on Frodo since it looked like it was all over for them either way, and somehow managed to pull it off in the end.

I'll post the full cast list in a moment.


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The Treason of Isengard starred

Aenur as Saruman
You are the greatest of the Istari, Curunír the "Man of Skill" who heads the council of the wizards
You possess the Palantir, and can see the shapes and shadows of all men and beast http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=RoleCop
The voice of Saruman possesses power beyond imagination, and can beguile even the wise to believe your words http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Godfather

thatnicguy as Grimma Wormtongue
Your Power: You weaken and hamper even the strongest and noblest of your enemies. You are a Role Blocker http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roleblocker
You are sneaky to the point of stealth, and count as a Ninja: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Ninja
You have one additional in game affect that even you are not aware of. [making Theoden Voteless]

Sensual Lettuce as Lurtz, fiercest of all Uruks and second in command to Saruman.
The malice and violence present in your blood is stronger even than amongst other Uruk-Hai: Strongman http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Strongman



Vesh as Boromir
There is a darkness that clouds your heart, and some of the Fellowship have begun to sense it http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Miller
However despite this flaw you remain one of the greatest heroes of Men. You are a Mighty hero, and have a 1 shot Vigilante power http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Vigilante
The Might of your blows is such that it cannot be blocked by your enemies. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Strongman

Centurions as Erkenbrand
You are Erkenbrand, commander of Rohan and hornblower of Wesfold. Your power is Mailman http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mailman

Blindwitness as Frodo Baggins
You are beloved by the Fellowship of the Ring and your loss would affect them badly: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Beloved
Fortunately you secretly possess a Mithril Shirt: 1-Shot Lynchproof/Bulletproof/Universal Save http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bulletproof

Aza as Gandalf the Grey
You possess the power to light up the darkness and reveal the shapes of your enemies: Cop http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cop

Aza as Gandalf the White
[] You possess the power to light up the darkness and reveal the shapes of your enemies: Cop http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cop
[] The power of your goodness and honesty are known to all: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... cent_Child
[] "Your Staff Is Broken" - Removes any evil effects on any players, penetrates even Godfather.

Marked by the Gods as Aragorn
You are the greatest of Rangers of the North http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tracker

Introducing WanderingFool as Eowyn
You have a heart filled with courage, and know both how to take and save a life. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Doctor

PaulFrank as Pippin
You are a stealthy hobbit with a good heart, but perhaps too drawn to shiny things. Your power is Thief http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Thief

DarthProph as Eomer
You sheild the lands and friends of Rohan. Your power is Master Bodyguard http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=bodyguard
Master bodyguard affects even strongman, poison, roleblocked, bus driven etc kills.

James Heald - King Theoden
[] Your mind has been twisted by the enemy and you start the game Voteless http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Voteless
- The hope of your people is that this condition may be temporary.
[] There lives within you the power of a king, waiting to be jarred back into action. Until then all you can do is watch http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Voyeur
Activated by Eomer (Elite Bodyguard)
[] You are no longer voteless
[] You no longer sit on the sidelines and observe, and lose the power Voyeur
[] You are ready to follow the Men of the West into battle and gain the power http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Follower



And featuring a brief cameo appearance from Bloodlust as Smeagol & Gollum
Your alignment is 3rd party
Victory Condition: You win a Personal Victory if you kill the Ringbearer and steal his ring. To do this, you must either cast the first or the last vote in a successful lynch of the Ringbearer. If you fail you will be banished from the lands.
You spend the nights sneeeeeaking and always searching amongst the players for the bearer of the ring. Your power is Flavour Cop http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flavor_Cop


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It's more that we were chatting in PM and I reached the conclusion that Aenur was either Godfather or Vigilante, thinking he had a killing aspect to him because he was skilled with a knife, and MSL told me that he couldn't comment on my train of thought but that every character was armed and that my results are a lot more ambiguous than that(
The Thief results HAVE to be ambiguous, since otherwise it would be easy for it to be as powerful as a Role Cop and Cop combined (eg, "You find an Uruk-Hai Sword" would be way overpowered).

Therefor you would get "an arrow, fletched for battle" from Legolas or Aragorn but it could also be thought of as coming from Lurtz, a Handweapon too heavy for you to carry from Gimli, Boromir OR Lurtz, a knife rather than a staff of power from Saruman (he used it to stab Frodo in the book btw) etc.

It's not a power I would use in games very often since it is difficult to Mod, but it fit the theme well.


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Best....Game....Ever.

I actually found it very well balanced in the end.

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I suspect James is going to be pissed when he gets on from work and realises Saruman has corrupted Boromir while he was unable to post... :|

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I was always suspect of Aenur this game. he was even my first investigation target (how fitting...)

I got back an innocent result, as you all knew, but something didn't sit right with me,
he started day 2 voting for Vesh, and although I can't put my finger on it,
I feel you can tell when Vesh is playing as town, and IMO, he was Clearly town at that stage.

This made me slightly uneasy.

I also found it interesting that Aenur, was openly keen to lynch me, in order to solidify himself as town. (cop result)
As I believe he wouldn't have been so eager to lynch the alledged cop, espically if he actually was confirmed as town.

Then the last alarm bell was once i died ...

(Just so people know, i was NOT informed i would be gandalf the white.... i just bluffed it, and it came true :D )

I was given the role of... super cop, or whatever it is, basically i am not roleblocked, and can see through Godfather results.

This is what made me think Aenur is actually likely the godfather, although,

I was pretty much sure, by night 2 that the mafia was...
1.thatnicguy
2. Paulfrank
3. Sensual_Lettuce

I openly named them, but i think i was way to harsh on Pippin... sorry hobbit :(

This made it very easy for the mafia to push through a lynch on Pip's.

Here is a PM I sent Matt during my "Dead" phase (Night 2)

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For your entertainment.....

This is how I see the players at the moment.

Aenur - GAMLING - Likely town member
Aza - Gandalf the Grey Cop - Fallen
blindwitness - TREEBEARD? - 1 Self save - Seems town
Bloodlust - Smeagol/Gollum 3rd party kill-condition - Dead
Centurions - Erkenbrand Mailman - Dead
DarthProph - Eomer Elite Bodyguard - Dead

James heald - THEODEN - Now joins the fight
Marked By The Gods - ARAGORN - Jack of all trades / Frodo
Paulfrank - PIPPEN (lies....)
Sensual_Lettuce - GIMLI (lies....)
thatnicguy - LEGOLAS (lies....)

Vesh - BOROMIR - seems legit, i still think town
WanderingFool - EOWYN - town doc ? surprised she wasn't the target night 1 if she/he is town.

So, it seems Frodo is out there somewhere according to Gollum....

You would have had to give a fake RC... or had questions asked, which leads me to believe,
Marked could be a likely Frodo player, being as quite as possible, while still trying to be in the game,
it would also make sense, if he was trying to protect some sort of power role(s) Jack of all trades ?

On the other hand, both nicguy or Sensual COULD be a frodo player, hiding behind Gimli / legolas,
as that would be a fake RC that i would give them if i were the mod :P
Although, I still highly believe them both to be mafia.

If Pippen is in the game.... your likely Modding the game like I :P here have a random player... haha.
I hihgly doubt he is who he says he is....

I think Wandering could be Eowyn and a doc (any type) it would make sense, as going off a few things,
it seems the mafia would have a strongman in there list, so a Doc may be present for the town.

Then from Night 3... my death night...

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I have the power to, so I may as well see If I am right

Investigate : Paulfrank

Please.

It was either he or Sensual, as they are my main targets for mafia.

although, Aenur, for some reason, is still not boding 100% well with me....

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Lynching a sweet lil hobbit like Pippin, just cruel :P
As stated, first round's on Gandalf :mrgreen:
(Unless Sam's missus is feeling generous)

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