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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:31 pm 
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an alternate position - interesting the things you find when u start looking into this...never realised there was so much youtube dedicated to this gamergate thing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHvVjaKMT1M

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:10 pm 
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Chances are nothing will come of the petition because the organisers are caught between a rock and a hard place with contracts etc. But at least the fact that it has taken off and got so much support hopefully sends the message to Adam and Gamergate that 'to attacks on women gamers - Australia says no!'
Would be a pretty poor contract if they didn't have the option to terminate it when someone has done something likely to bring Supanova into disrepute.

Use Supanova's contact points to voice your concerns. If enough people do, I'm sure Adam will soon have other commitments and won't be able to make it to OZ :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:52 pm 
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Well a cursory google search about this unknown issue to me has just revealed biased articles ragging on Baldwin and not much else.

Just sounds like people jumping on the pc bandwagon so they can all pat each other on the back and think they are special little snowflakes.

Let him go. If you don't want to see him don't go to his seminar/talk/speech whatever.

As for gamergate. Lumping all people in it as human excrement might be a tad bigoted.
I agree with the core reasoning of the group just not the methods of the minority in it.
But at the end of the day don't really think on it or lose sleep because someone on the Internet has a different view then me.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:59 pm 
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I would consider threats of the aforementioned to women and the impacts in can have on their lives (and that of their friends and family) to be a considerably real problem.

And this douchebag kick started a group that virtually made it part of their mantra.

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Well a cursory google search about this unknown issue to me has just revealed biased articles ragging on Baldwin and not much else.

Just sounds like people jumping on the pc bandwagon so they can all pat each other on the back and think they are special little snowflakes.

Let him go. If you don't want to see him don't go to his seminar/talk/speech whatever.

As for gamergate. Lumping all people in it as human excrement might be a tad bigoted.
I agree with the core reasoning of the group just not the methods of the minority in it.
But at the end of the day don't really think on it or lose sleep because someone on the Internet has a different view then me.

This is basically my opinion as well. I would however like to know if I am wrong and there is strong evidence that he is guilty of what he's accused of.

I don't really get the whole meet the actor things. I like the character but I won't be meeting the character. Give me an enthusiastic cosplayer anyday.

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I would consider threats of the aforementioned to women and the impacts in can have on their lives (and that od their friends and family) to be a considerably real problem.

And this douchebag kick started a group that virtually made it part of their mantra.
I agree that the actions of some operating under the #gamergate are a real problem and needs to be stopped.

But you can't lump all people who are part of that movement into that category. That simply isn't true and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the core message.

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There's plenty wrong with the "core" message (and I say "core" in inverted commas because with this leaderless rabble, whether there actually is one or not is debateable), but that's a whole other thread.

This particular discussion isn't about "all people" in the movement. It's about one especially reprehensible idiot in particular.

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There's plenty wrong with the "core" message (and I say "core" in inverted commas because with this leaderless rabble, whether there actually is one or not is debateable), but that's a whole other thread.

This particular discussion isn't about "all people" in the movement. It's about one especially reprehensible idiot in particular.
+1

It annoys me that I already had no intention of going to supanova, because I can't get on board with not attending on principle. I'll continue having no interest in watching firefly to make up for it :D


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There's plenty wrong with the "core" message (and I say "core" in inverted commas because with this leaderless rabble, whether there actually is one or not is debateable), but that's a whole other thread.

This particular discussion isn't about "all people" in the movement. It's about one especially reprehensible idiot in particular.
Well yall better get your pitchforks & lynching mob ready.

Only y'all can save the interwebs and the world from Adam Baldwin!!

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If having a robust conversation about the way we can respond to people who promote violence towards members of our own society is something worthy of ridicule, we've gone down a very dark path and don't deserve nice things.


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I really do need to find a "like" button mod to install for this forum.

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If having a robust conversation about the way we can respond to people who promote violence towards members of our own society is something worthy of ridicule, we've gone down a very dark path and don't deserve nice things.
That's what I am struggling to understand though. I haven't seen any time that Adam Baldwin promoted any of the terrible things that some gamergaters have committed. It seems like a guilty by association type deal too me.

Like I said early though happy to be shown otherwise, and would gladly support a (censored) that guy movement if it is the case.

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